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	<title>Comments on: Whose House is it Anyway?</title>
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	<description>Standing in the Gap in a Society that's Warring with God.</description>
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		<title>By: MInTheGap</title>
		<link>http://www.minthegap.com/2008/02/28/whose-house-is-it-anyway/comment-page-1/#comment-80193</link>
		<dc:creator>MInTheGap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, comparing the African American situation with homosexuality is an incorrect analogy.  A more correct analogy is the alcoholic, the gambler or the drug addict.  All of these science is now saying we're born with (some even suggesting that it is something that we can overcome with vaccines), and yet all of these are defined by the behavior and you have to choose whether to engage in these things or not.

Just as I would have a problem accepting a drug addict, and alcoholic or a gambler to come in to my house and brag about how much money they made, how great it feels to be high, or how much of a buzz they get from a beer, I have the same problem with a homosexual coming into my house talking about his "family" and how he believes his is an acceptable lifestyle.

It is a moral decision-- a moral decision that should be made by a family.  And the family should show more deference to those inside the family than for an employee outside the family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, comparing the African American situation with homosexuality is an incorrect analogy.  A more correct analogy is the alcoholic, the gambler or the drug addict.  All of these science is now saying we&#8217;re born with (some even suggesting that it is something that we can overcome with vaccines), and yet all of these are defined by the behavior and you have to choose whether to engage in these things or not.</p>
<p>Just as I would have a problem accepting a drug addict, and alcoholic or a gambler to come in to my house and brag about how much money they made, how great it feels to be high, or how much of a buzz they get from a beer, I have the same problem with a homosexual coming into my house talking about his &#8220;family&#8221; and how he believes his is an acceptable lifestyle.</p>
<p>It is a moral decision&#8211; a moral decision that should be made by a family.  And the family should show more deference to those inside the family than for an employee outside the family.</p>
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		<title>By: Musicguy</title>
		<link>http://www.minthegap.com/2008/02/28/whose-house-is-it-anyway/comment-page-1/#comment-80192</link>
		<dc:creator>Musicguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I guess I am.  I equate homophobia with racism, sexism, and any other negative ism.  I'm happy that the husband is standing up for equality and is refusing to be afraid or discrimate against those who are different than him.

40 years ago, the wife would have written in about her husband daring to bring a black man into her home.  Or about the white guy daring to date the african american woman and GASP- talked about it in front of the CHILDREN!!!!

We've moved beyond that, and will in regards to homophobia as well.

&lt;em&gt;Musicguy's last blog post..&lt;a href='http://musicguy2723.blogspot.com/2008/03/video-thursday-fight-out-loud.html'&gt;Video Thursday- Fight Out Loud&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I guess I am.  I equate homophobia with racism, sexism, and any other negative ism.  I&#8217;m happy that the husband is standing up for equality and is refusing to be afraid or discrimate against those who are different than him.</p>
<p>40 years ago, the wife would have written in about her husband daring to bring a black man into her home.  Or about the white guy daring to date the african american woman and GASP- talked about it in front of the CHILDREN!!!!</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve moved beyond that, and will in regards to homophobia as well.</p>
<p><em>Musicguy&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://musicguy2723.blogspot.com/2008/03/video-thursday-fight-out-loud.html'>Video Thursday- Fight Out Loud</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: MInTheGap</title>
		<link>http://www.minthegap.com/2008/02/28/whose-house-is-it-anyway/comment-page-1/#comment-80191</link>
		<dc:creator>MInTheGap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 13:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a way, you're right Musicguy, we know nothing but what she said.  And her problem was the following: She did not like how the man talked around her and her children.  The part about being a homosexual answers the question: What was he talking about that offended you?

Which boils down, yet again, to what Amanda and everyone else in comments have said.  The husband should stand by his wife, regardless.  Are you arguing that he should not have?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a way, you&#8217;re right Musicguy, we know nothing but what she said.  And her problem was the following: She did not like how the man talked around her and her children.  The part about being a homosexual answers the question: What was he talking about that offended you?</p>
<p>Which boils down, yet again, to what Amanda and everyone else in comments have said.  The husband should stand by his wife, regardless.  Are you arguing that he should not have?</p>
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		<title>By: Musicguy</title>
		<link>http://www.minthegap.com/2008/02/28/whose-house-is-it-anyway/comment-page-1/#comment-80190</link>
		<dc:creator>Musicguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 13:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mandi- we don't have any idea what his "behavior" was like.  the writer conveniently left that out.  all we know is that in her fist sentence, she condemned him for being a homo and then used spurious, yet unsubstantiated allegations to buttress her pseudo claim. I'd love to know what "very inappropriate" means. 

If his behavior/conversation were the sole issue, there would have been no reason to mention the fact that he was a homo.  The homophobe mentality is an easy one to pick out.  You can call it religious fervor, the rest of the world, Margo included, calls it homophobia.

&lt;em&gt;Musicguy's last blog post..&lt;a href='http://musicguy2723.blogspot.com/2008/03/video-thursday-fight-out-loud.html'&gt;Video Thursday- Fight Out Loud&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mandi- we don&#8217;t have any idea what his &#8220;behavior&#8221; was like.  the writer conveniently left that out.  all we know is that in her fist sentence, she condemned him for being a homo and then used spurious, yet unsubstantiated allegations to buttress her pseudo claim. I&#8217;d love to know what &#8220;very inappropriate&#8221; means. </p>
<p>If his behavior/conversation were the sole issue, there would have been no reason to mention the fact that he was a homo.  The homophobe mentality is an easy one to pick out.  You can call it religious fervor, the rest of the world, Margo included, calls it homophobia.</p>
<p><em>Musicguy&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://musicguy2723.blogspot.com/2008/03/video-thursday-fight-out-loud.html'>Video Thursday- Fight Out Loud</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 02:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Min said, the point of the post was that Margo's advice was wrong because the issue at hand is not homophobia, but the way this husband is not respecting his wife and family.

She has the right to ask her husband not to bring home people who make her uncomfortable. And it wasn't his homosexuality that made her uncomfortable; it was his behavior when he was in her home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Min said, the point of the post was that Margo&#8217;s advice was wrong because the issue at hand is not homophobia, but the way this husband is not respecting his wife and family.</p>
<p>She has the right to ask her husband not to bring home people who make her uncomfortable. And it wasn&#8217;t his homosexuality that made her uncomfortable; it was his behavior when he was in her home.</p>
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		<title>By: MInTheGap</title>
		<link>http://www.minthegap.com/2008/02/28/whose-house-is-it-anyway/comment-page-1/#comment-80173</link>
		<dc:creator>MInTheGap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 21:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, it's tangential to the discussion.  The point of the post is that Margo's advice is bad because she just jumps to assuming homophobia and entirely misses the fact that this is first and foremost a discussion of how a couple should relate inside their own home.  Family should come before coworkers.  Regardless of whether it's gambling, smoking, or homosexuality, if a husband or wife don't feel comfortable with a person in their home, the other person should respect their wishes.

The whole health side effects of your chosen lifestyle are pertinent only in discussing the reasons why the wife does not want this man talking about his chosen lifestyle in her home.  The fact that Margo's missing the boat here is the real point and the real topic.

Again, I restate, I will defend your right to bar me from your house just as I defend this wife's right not to have to have you walk into hers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, it&#8217;s tangential to the discussion.  The point of the post is that Margo&#8217;s advice is bad because she just jumps to assuming homophobia and entirely misses the fact that this is first and foremost a discussion of how a couple should relate inside their own home.  Family should come before coworkers.  Regardless of whether it&#8217;s gambling, smoking, or homosexuality, if a husband or wife don&#8217;t feel comfortable with a person in their home, the other person should respect their wishes.</p>
<p>The whole health side effects of your chosen lifestyle are pertinent only in discussing the reasons why the wife does not want this man talking about his chosen lifestyle in her home.  The fact that Margo&#8217;s missing the boat here is the real point and the real topic.</p>
<p>Again, I restate, I will defend your right to bar me from your house just as I defend this wife&#8217;s right not to have to have you walk into hers.</p>
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		<title>By: Musicguy</title>
		<link>http://www.minthegap.com/2008/02/28/whose-house-is-it-anyway/comment-page-1/#comment-80172</link>
		<dc:creator>Musicguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 21:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, it's not off topic.  Min's assumption is that Margo's advice was bad because my lifestyle is unhealthy, dangerous, and will cause me to die young. 

I'm refuting that ridiculous assumption.

&lt;em&gt;Musicguy's last blog post..&lt;a href='http://musicguy2723.blogspot.com/2008/03/video-thursday-fight-out-loud.html'&gt;Video Thursday- Fight Out Loud&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, it&#8217;s not off topic.  Min&#8217;s assumption is that Margo&#8217;s advice was bad because my lifestyle is unhealthy, dangerous, and will cause me to die young. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m refuting that ridiculous assumption.</p>
<p><em>Musicguy&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://musicguy2723.blogspot.com/2008/03/video-thursday-fight-out-loud.html'>Video Thursday- Fight Out Loud</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
		<link>http://www.minthegap.com/2008/02/28/whose-house-is-it-anyway/comment-page-1/#comment-80166</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 18:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These comments have delineated way off topic. The original issue was whether or not Margo was correct in her advice (no), not whether or not a homosexual lifestyle is good or bad.

&lt;em&gt;Amanda's last blog post..&lt;a href='http://www.mandikaye.com/2008/03/05/i-am-not-worthless/'&gt;I Am Not Worthless&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These comments have delineated way off topic. The original issue was whether or not Margo was correct in her advice (no), not whether or not a homosexual lifestyle is good or bad.</p>
<p><em>Amanda&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://www.mandikaye.com/2008/03/05/i-am-not-worthless/'>I Am Not Worthless</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Musicguy</title>
		<link>http://www.minthegap.com/2008/02/28/whose-house-is-it-anyway/comment-page-1/#comment-80165</link>
		<dc:creator>Musicguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 18:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess being gay in 2008 really is dangerous and unhealthy afterall.  Just not for the reasons you cite:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wy4EAigSBw

&lt;em&gt;Musicguy's last blog post..&lt;a href='http://musicguy2723.blogspot.com/2008/03/video-thursday-fight-out-loud.html'&gt;Video Thursday- Fight Out Loud&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess being gay in 2008 really is dangerous and unhealthy afterall.  Just not for the reasons you cite:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wy4EAigSBw" >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wy4EAigSBw</a></p>
<p><em>Musicguy&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://musicguy2723.blogspot.com/2008/03/video-thursday-fight-out-loud.html'>Video Thursday- Fight Out Loud</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: MInTheGap</title>
		<link>http://www.minthegap.com/2008/02/28/whose-house-is-it-anyway/comment-page-1/#comment-80094</link>
		<dc:creator>MInTheGap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, because we have ways to battle lung cancer, we should stop discouraging smoking?  Because we have ways to battle liver cancer and we've improved the safety of our automobiles we should stop discouraging alcohol consumption (or at least drinking and driving)?

Simply because people can take a cocktail of drugs and live longer with HIV doesn't mean that I'm going to advocate someone being a homosexual or swapping needles, etc.  Life expectancy may have gone up, but that doesn't mean that they aren't still at greater risk for infection.

Taken from the perspective of a parent (again, back to the post), I'm going to tell my kids about the inherent risks of things (and of course the morality of the situation).

As for the next comment you make, homosexuality is not natural, and up until the last century it was considered a mental illness.  You say we changed our mind because of science, I say we changed our minds because of societal pressure.  Call enough people derogatory names like "racist", "bigot", "homophobe" and people will start to cave just so they do not appear to be one of those things.  People have left homosexuality.  Even if it is a natural tendency, so it throwing a temper tantrum, being proud, stealing, lying, etc.  All those other things we train children not to be.  All those other "natural urges" we tell them not to engage in.

And as for anal cancer:  Let's see.  If I'm a heterosexual male my chance of anal cancer is what?  And your article actually works against you.  It said that the numbers were comparable-- before regular pap smears for women.  Now the numbers for gay men are higher, and higher still for HIV survivors!

Again, we're talking about an unhealthy lifestyle.  One that that is unnatural.  One that shortens life expectancy and has a negative impact on the quality of life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, because we have ways to battle lung cancer, we should stop discouraging smoking?  Because we have ways to battle liver cancer and we&#8217;ve improved the safety of our automobiles we should stop discouraging alcohol consumption (or at least drinking and driving)?</p>
<p>Simply because people can take a cocktail of drugs and live longer with HIV doesn&#8217;t mean that I&#8217;m going to advocate someone being a homosexual or swapping needles, etc.  Life expectancy may have gone up, but that doesn&#8217;t mean that they aren&#8217;t still at greater risk for infection.</p>
<p>Taken from the perspective of a parent (again, back to the post), I&#8217;m going to tell my kids about the inherent risks of things (and of course the morality of the situation).</p>
<p>As for the next comment you make, homosexuality is not natural, and up until the last century it was considered a mental illness.  You say we changed our mind because of science, I say we changed our minds because of societal pressure.  Call enough people derogatory names like &#8220;racist&#8221;, &#8220;bigot&#8221;, &#8220;homophobe&#8221; and people will start to cave just so they do not appear to be one of those things.  People have left homosexuality.  Even if it is a natural tendency, so it throwing a temper tantrum, being proud, stealing, lying, etc.  All those other things we train children not to be.  All those other &#8220;natural urges&#8221; we tell them not to engage in.</p>
<p>And as for anal cancer:  Let&#8217;s see.  If I&#8217;m a heterosexual male my chance of anal cancer is what?  And your article actually works against you.  It said that the numbers were comparable&#8211; before regular pap smears for women.  Now the numbers for gay men are higher, and higher still for HIV survivors!</p>
<p>Again, we&#8217;re talking about an unhealthy lifestyle.  One that that is unnatural.  One that shortens life expectancy and has a negative impact on the quality of life.</p>
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