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	<title>Comments on: Time&#8217;s Effect on All Things</title>
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	<description>Standing in the Gap in a Society that's Warring with God.</description>
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		<title>By: MInTheGap</title>
		<link>http://www.minthegap.com/2008/02/26/times-effect-on-all-things/comment-page-1/#comment-79719</link>
		<dc:creator>MInTheGap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, we could start with the whole "ruled by a ruling class" to describe the current process by which our elected officials are chosen.  We could then move to a centralized government gaining power.  The absence of private ownership via property tax and the Celo decision that allowed gov't to take them away by eminent domain.  A Judiciary that has legislative power.  The lack of historical and civics training in public schools.  The redistribution of wealth done by the Federal Government.  The constant encroachment on free speech and free exercise of religion.

Shall I continue?

A socialist government believes that the government is the answer, and seeks to grow government.  Over the past century both the Republicans and Democrats have grown government by an alarming rate-- both via earmarks, handouts, and taxes.  It's almost impossible not to violate some law because there are so many, and so many that we don't know.

But great question Musicguy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, we could start with the whole &#8220;ruled by a ruling class&#8221; to describe the current process by which our elected officials are chosen.  We could then move to a centralized government gaining power.  The absence of private ownership via property tax and the Celo decision that allowed gov&#8217;t to take them away by eminent domain.  A Judiciary that has legislative power.  The lack of historical and civics training in public schools.  The redistribution of wealth done by the Federal Government.  The constant encroachment on free speech and free exercise of religion.</p>
<p>Shall I continue?</p>
<p>A socialist government believes that the government is the answer, and seeks to grow government.  Over the past century both the Republicans and Democrats have grown government by an alarming rate&#8211; both via earmarks, handouts, and taxes.  It&#8217;s almost impossible not to violate some law because there are so many, and so many that we don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>But great question Musicguy.</p>
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		<title>By: Musicguy</title>
		<link>http://www.minthegap.com/2008/02/26/times-effect-on-all-things/comment-page-1/#comment-79702</link>
		<dc:creator>Musicguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"It’s eroded away rights to the point that soon it will not much different than the socialist state that it defeated at the end of the cold war."
I'm dying to hear some examples here.

&lt;em&gt;Musicguy's last blog post..&lt;a href='http://musicguy2723.blogspot.com/2008/02/quote-monday_25.html'&gt;Quote Monday&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s eroded away rights to the point that soon it will not much different than the socialist state that it defeated at the end of the cold war.&#8221;<br />
I&#8217;m dying to hear some examples here.</p>
<p><em>Musicguy&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://musicguy2723.blogspot.com/2008/02/quote-monday_25.html'>Quote Monday</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
		<link>http://www.minthegap.com/2008/02/26/times-effect-on-all-things/comment-page-1/#comment-79696</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh! I had read it wrong. I see, now.
&#160;
I see where you're coming from. But at the same time, sex is something that is talked about in the Word, but rarely spoken about in church. Maybe these folks have gone a little over the top, but it's good to be open about godly sex.

&lt;em&gt;Amanda's last blog post..&lt;a href='http://www.mandikaye.com/2008/02/26/exciting-news-yes-im-a-dork/'&gt;Exciting News! (Yes, I'm a Dork)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh! I had read it wrong. I see, now.<br />
&nbsp;<br />
I see where you&#8217;re coming from. But at the same time, sex is something that is talked about in the Word, but rarely spoken about in church. Maybe these folks have gone a little over the top, but it&#8217;s good to be open about godly sex.</p>
<p><em>Amanda&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://www.mandikaye.com/2008/02/26/exciting-news-yes-im-a-dork/'>Exciting News! (Yes, I&#8217;m a Dork)</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: MInTheGap</title>
		<link>http://www.minthegap.com/2008/02/26/times-effect-on-all-things/comment-page-1/#comment-79691</link>
		<dc:creator>MInTheGap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it means that the church acknowledges that they have members living in sin, but are only challenging them to go a month without sex.  They would have been better off saying "let's get married at the end of the month without sex" than just saying stay away for a month, and then you can go back to your sin...

Still, the point is the message.  Churches are doing anything, bringing anyone in, using any gimmick they can to try to entertain and be attractive to the world.  Instead, they should be seeing where God is working and joining Him in that work to accomplish His purposes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it means that the church acknowledges that they have members living in sin, but are only challenging them to go a month without sex.  They would have been better off saying &#8220;let&#8217;s get married at the end of the month without sex&#8221; than just saying stay away for a month, and then you can go back to your sin&#8230;</p>
<p>Still, the point is the message.  Churches are doing anything, bringing anyone in, using any gimmick they can to try to entertain and be attractive to the world.  Instead, they should be seeing where God is working and joining Him in that work to accomplish His purposes.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
		<link>http://www.minthegap.com/2008/02/26/times-effect-on-all-things/comment-page-1/#comment-79690</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. I actually do remember hearing about that now that I've seen the link. The most interesting part was this:
&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
Oh, and the flip side of the challenge? No rolling in the sheets for the unwed. 

Church member Tim Jones and his fiancee agreed to take on the challenge, though he acknowledges it'll be a tough month.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
Now, is it just me, or does fiance mean unwed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. I actually do remember hearing about that now that I&#8217;ve seen the link. The most interesting part was this:</p>
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Oh, and the flip side of the challenge? No rolling in the sheets for the unwed. </p>
<p>Church member Tim Jones and his fiancee agreed to take on the challenge, though he acknowledges it&#8217;ll be a tough month.</p></blockquote>
<p>Now, is it just me, or does fiance mean unwed?</p>
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		<title>By: MInTheGap</title>
		<link>http://www.minthegap.com/2008/02/26/times-effect-on-all-things/comment-page-1/#comment-79684</link>
		<dc:creator>MInTheGap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 13:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christine, it's interesting how the problems in churches are different in different places.  We had a missionary in our home a few months back, and it was amazing to hear how much more violent America is than other places, and how God was at work in some new lands.  Unfortunately, I believe that it's a trend that once the Gospel has been in a certain place for a period of time, and then the culture goes Post-Christian that it's hard for that culture to go back.

Amanda, I've actually linked to the latest church that's using sex as a selling point.  Now, I'll grant that they are encouraging sex inside marriage and that people should abstain while outside marriage, but this is a campaign-- press releases, bill boards-- and this isn't the only church doing this.  Jesus did not come to earth so that we could have a better sex life.  Nor did Jesus go around teaching about how to better make love as a way to get people to follow Him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christine, it&#8217;s interesting how the problems in churches are different in different places.  We had a missionary in our home a few months back, and it was amazing to hear how much more violent America is than other places, and how God was at work in some new lands.  Unfortunately, I believe that it&#8217;s a trend that once the Gospel has been in a certain place for a period of time, and then the culture goes Post-Christian that it&#8217;s hard for that culture to go back.</p>
<p>Amanda, I&#8217;ve actually linked to the latest church that&#8217;s using sex as a selling point.  Now, I&#8217;ll grant that they are encouraging sex inside marriage and that people should abstain while outside marriage, but this is a campaign&#8211; press releases, bill boards&#8211; and this isn&#8217;t the only church doing this.  Jesus did not come to earth so that we could have a better sex life.  Nor did Jesus go around teaching about how to better make love as a way to get people to follow Him.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
		<link>http://www.minthegap.com/2008/02/26/times-effect-on-all-things/comment-page-1/#comment-79648</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
We use sex to sell our church services&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
I'm quite curious to see examples of this, because with as many flaws as I see in our church, I haven't seen this.

&lt;em&gt;Amanda's last blog post..&lt;a href='http://www.mandikaye.com/2008/02/25/grace-peace-love-abounds/'&gt;Grace, Peace, Love - Abounds&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
We use sex to sell our church services</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m quite curious to see examples of this, because with as many flaws as I see in our church, I haven&#8217;t seen this.</p>
<p><em>Amanda&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://www.mandikaye.com/2008/02/25/grace-peace-love-abounds/'>Grace, Peace, Love - Abounds</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
		<link>http://www.minthegap.com/2008/02/26/times-effect-on-all-things/comment-page-1/#comment-79641</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We had a guest speaker at church on Sunday&#160;who talked about these things.&#160; His viewpoint was interesting because he's not from the U.S. Same problems, different lattitude.
Great post. Sad to say it's true.

&lt;em&gt;Christine's last blog post..&lt;a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/serenityhow/~3/241110378/blog-post_25.html'&gt;A Cinderella Story&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We had a guest speaker at church on Sunday&nbsp;who talked about these things.&nbsp; His viewpoint was interesting because he&#8217;s not from the U.S. Same problems, different lattitude.<br />
Great post. Sad to say it&#8217;s true.</p>
<p><em>Christine&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/serenityhow/~3/241110378/blog-post_25.html'>A Cinderella Story</a></em></p>
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