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	<title>Comments on: How Do You Explain the Miracles?</title>
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	<description>Standing in the Gap in a Society that's Warring with God.</description>
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		<title>By: AG</title>
		<link>http://www.minthegap.com/2008/01/28/how-do-you-explain-the-miracles/comment-page-1/#comment-79014</link>
		<dc:creator>AG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd read this story before, but this is the first time I've read it since doing mission work in South Africa.&#160; Brought tears to my eyes.&#160; The faith of the South African kids is so pure, despite the evil things (abuse, rape, etc.) they've experienced since their infancy.

&lt;em&gt;AG's last blog post..&lt;a href='http://talmidah-b-yeshua.blogspot.com/2008/01/god-is-so-good.html'&gt;God is so good!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d read this story before, but this is the first time I&#8217;ve read it since doing mission work in South Africa.&nbsp; Brought tears to my eyes.&nbsp; The faith of the South African kids is so pure, despite the evil things (abuse, rape, etc.) they&#8217;ve experienced since their infancy.</p>
<p><em>AG&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://talmidah-b-yeshua.blogspot.com/2008/01/god-is-so-good.html'>God is so good!</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: MInTheGap</title>
		<link>http://www.minthegap.com/2008/01/28/how-do-you-explain-the-miracles/comment-page-1/#comment-78991</link>
		<dc:creator>MInTheGap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn't say that it was a miracle if a homeless man winning the lottery is on par with this example, unless someone bought him a ticket, placed it in a box, had it sit for five months, and he only found it after asking for it.

Same thing with the Governor and the prayer service.  If the Governor asked for rain in the middle of a drought and in the next hour it rained...

The quarterback could be the same thing, but much more trivial.  And still, you have the length of time quotient.

The problem with the atheist position and things like this is that it has to say "it was coincidence."  It cannot admit the improbable or the supernatural because it vehemently denies it.  It's one thing to be agnostic-- I can understand that position.  But there's record or lame men being healed, the deaf and dumb hearing and speaking, the blind seeing, and men being raised from the dead and those too are rejected.

Hence the analogy to Pharaoh.  Moses walked in to Pharaoh's court and told him to let the Jewish people free.  When Pharaoh did not, God brought ten plagues upon him-- each one attacking one of the gods of the Egyptians and each one of them successively worse.  And yet Pharaoh didn't believe.  Early on it was because the magicians (their scientists of the day) could reproduce the wonder, but later on, as it got successively worse, they couldn't (nor did they want to) duplicate the wonders.

It's not that there are not signs, Musicguy, and it's not that these things do not happen today-- it's that they "can't" happen today, or the faith that some people place in the idea that they are responsible to no one and created by no one will be shattered and they will have to come to grips with the reality that is all around us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t say that it was a miracle if a homeless man winning the lottery is on par with this example, unless someone bought him a ticket, placed it in a box, had it sit for five months, and he only found it after asking for it.</p>
<p>Same thing with the Governor and the prayer service.  If the Governor asked for rain in the middle of a drought and in the next hour it rained&#8230;</p>
<p>The quarterback could be the same thing, but much more trivial.  And still, you have the length of time quotient.</p>
<p>The problem with the atheist position and things like this is that it has to say &#8220;it was coincidence.&#8221;  It cannot admit the improbable or the supernatural because it vehemently denies it.  It&#8217;s one thing to be agnostic&#8211; I can understand that position.  But there&#8217;s record or lame men being healed, the deaf and dumb hearing and speaking, the blind seeing, and men being raised from the dead and those too are rejected.</p>
<p>Hence the analogy to Pharaoh.  Moses walked in to Pharaoh&#8217;s court and told him to let the Jewish people free.  When Pharaoh did not, God brought ten plagues upon him&#8211; each one attacking one of the gods of the Egyptians and each one of them successively worse.  And yet Pharaoh didn&#8217;t believe.  Early on it was because the magicians (their scientists of the day) could reproduce the wonder, but later on, as it got successively worse, they couldn&#8217;t (nor did they want to) duplicate the wonders.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that there are not signs, Musicguy, and it&#8217;s not that these things do not happen today&#8211; it&#8217;s that they &#8220;can&#8217;t&#8221; happen today, or the faith that some people place in the idea that they are responsible to no one and created by no one will be shattered and they will have to come to grips with the reality that is all around us.</p>
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		<title>By: Musicguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Musicguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 00:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>coincidence.&#160; is it also a miracle when the homeless guy wins the lottery?&#160; when the governor has a prayer service and it rains the next week?&#160; When the quarter back completes the hail mary pass when the game is tied with three seconds left on the clock? 
You can certainly believe these things to be miracles.&#160; I'll stick with pure coincidence, luck, skill, and chance as the reasons behind these occurances.&#160; Tell me about the woman with endstage breast cancer who is suddenly cancer free and maybe we'll have something to chat about.
I've missed ya, Min.&#160; Glad to have you poking sticks at atheists again.&#160; Makes me feel love and welcomed (even though I'm not an atheist).

&lt;em&gt;Musicguy's last blog post..&lt;a href='http://musicguy2723.blogspot.com/2008/01/really.html'&gt;Really?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>coincidence.&nbsp; is it also a miracle when the homeless guy wins the lottery?&nbsp; when the governor has a prayer service and it rains the next week?&nbsp; When the quarter back completes the hail mary pass when the game is tied with three seconds left on the clock?<br />
You can certainly believe these things to be miracles.&nbsp; I&#8217;ll stick with pure coincidence, luck, skill, and chance as the reasons behind these occurances.&nbsp; Tell me about the woman with endstage breast cancer who is suddenly cancer free and maybe we&#8217;ll have something to chat about.<br />
I&#8217;ve missed ya, Min.&nbsp; Glad to have you poking sticks at atheists again.&nbsp; Makes me feel love and welcomed (even though I&#8217;m not an atheist).</p>
<p><em>Musicguy&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://musicguy2723.blogspot.com/2008/01/really.html'>Really?</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 23:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I LOVE stories like this one! Definitely going to read this to my girls, thank you for sharing it here, MIn. Yes, I'd say it takes more faith to continue in atheism, than it does in Christianity.Really enjoyed your post on prayer as well. What you say is so true. Heaven forbid our prayer lives stagnate into rote words of obligation and nothing more. I used to always pray myself to sleep at night, but since starting blogging/writing, I've instead developed the habit of brainstorming. Recently I've steered myself back into the nightly praying and it's like regaining that precious fellowship I hadn't even realized I'd been missing. Sad but true.

&lt;em&gt;Mary's last blog post..&lt;a href='http://homesteepedhope.com/2008/01/29/homemade-chicken-and-noodles/'&gt;Homemade Chicken and Noodles&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I LOVE stories like this one! Definitely going to read this to my girls, thank you for sharing it here, MIn. Yes, I&#8217;d say it takes more faith to continue in atheism, than it does in Christianity.Really enjoyed your post on prayer as well. What you say is so true. Heaven forbid our prayer lives stagnate into rote words of obligation and nothing more. I used to always pray myself to sleep at night, but since starting blogging/writing, I&#8217;ve instead developed the habit of brainstorming. Recently I&#8217;ve steered myself back into the nightly praying and it&#8217;s like regaining that precious fellowship I hadn&#8217;t even realized I&#8217;d been missing. Sad but true.</p>
<p><em>Mary&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://homesteepedhope.com/2008/01/29/homemade-chicken-and-noodles/'>Homemade Chicken and Noodles</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Leticia</title>
		<link>http://www.minthegap.com/2008/01/28/how-do-you-explain-the-miracles/comment-page-1/#comment-78982</link>
		<dc:creator>Leticia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the 2nd post that I have ran across about prayer.&#160; And I just happened to be studying about intercession, travailing in the spirit.
Our greatest weapon in this world is prayer.&#160; We must believe and have faith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the 2nd post that I have ran across about prayer.&nbsp; And I just happened to be studying about intercession, travailing in the spirit.<br />
Our greatest weapon in this world is prayer.&nbsp; We must believe and have faith.</p>
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