Comments on: A Cultural Disconnect http://www.minthegap.com/2007/12/16/a-cultural-disconnect/ Standing in the Gap in a Society that's Warring with God. Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:31:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Jess @ Making Home http://www.minthegap.com/2007/12/16/a-cultural-disconnect/#comment-78572 Jess @ Making Home Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:10:50 +0000 http://www.minthegap.com/2007/12/16/a-cultural-disconnect/#comment-78572 Actually, Min, this is very subjective, based on what country you're talking about. In China, for example, because each family can only have one child, children are VERY prized and valued. And when we lived there, people would be excited and look on in amazement that we could handle having 3 children. They would call me "Superwoman"... and the older women (who often, themselves, had had 3 or more children) would give me thumbs up. Children there are seen as a precious gift, because they are so (comparatively) rare. Here in Turkey, where I currently live, and in Thailand (where we had our 3rd child), people can have as many children as they want, and they do limit their family size to two or three children, on average, but they LOVE children VERY MUCH. So I think it is very subjective, depending on what country/region you're talking about. I think your article hits the nail on the head for most European countries, and I don't know much about African nations, but as far as the Asian countries that I know about, they are very much pro-family and pro-children, and value them very much. Interesting discussion. Jess Actually, Min, this is very subjective, based on what country you’re talking about.

In China, for example, because each family can only have one child, children are VERY prized and valued. And when we lived there, people would be excited and look on in amazement that we could handle having 3 children. They would call me “Superwoman”… and the older women (who often, themselves, had had 3 or more children) would give me thumbs up. Children there are seen as a precious gift, because they are so (comparatively) rare.

Here in Turkey, where I currently live, and in Thailand (where we had our 3rd child), people can have as many children as they want, and they do limit their family size to two or three children, on average, but they LOVE children VERY MUCH.

So I think it is very subjective, depending on what country/region you’re talking about. I think your article hits the nail on the head for most European countries, and I don’t know much about African nations, but as far as the Asian countries that I know about, they are very much pro-family and pro-children, and value them very much.

Interesting discussion.
Jess

]]> By: MInTheGap http://www.minthegap.com/2007/12/16/a-cultural-disconnect/#comment-78570 MInTheGap Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:48:39 +0000 http://www.minthegap.com/2007/12/16/a-cultural-disconnect/#comment-78570 Buffy-- really good point. One of the books that I was given after the birth of my second son was a book about raising Godly Seed, and it talked about the impact you can have with a large family-- which is tangential to your point. If this woman truly wanted to make a difference, she could have had children and taught them to preach the envirnomentalist gospel to others-- not to eliminate the race, but to fine cleaner methods. Why is it that these people insist that there's a problem with overpopulation while at the same time the statistics say that they're not even able to replace themselves. As far as I've read, overpopulation is a myth. I think you're right Ad Tracker-- it's exactly what I though the boyfriend, and now husband, must have been thinking. "Yes, I'll encourage you to get sterilized-- then we can be intimate all we want without having to worry about getting pregnant!" Buffy– really good point. One of the books that I was given after the birth of my second son was a book about raising Godly Seed, and it talked about the impact you can have with a large family– which is tangential to your point. If this woman truly wanted to make a difference, she could have had children and taught them to preach the envirnomentalist gospel to others– not to eliminate the race, but to fine cleaner methods.

Why is it that these people insist that there’s a problem with overpopulation while at the same time the statistics say that they’re not even able to replace themselves. As far as I’ve read, overpopulation is a myth.

I think you’re right Ad Tracker– it’s exactly what I though the boyfriend, and now husband, must have been thinking. “Yes, I’ll encourage you to get sterilized– then we can be intimate all we want without having to worry about getting pregnant!”

]]> By: Ad Tracker http://www.minthegap.com/2007/12/16/a-cultural-disconnect/#comment-78546 Ad Tracker Sun, 16 Dec 2007 17:42:06 +0000 http://www.minthegap.com/2007/12/16/a-cultural-disconnect/#comment-78546 I just love the twisted logic some people use to rationalize purely selfish behavior. If Ms. Vernelli was truly a believer in the logic she espoused, wouldn't the next obvious step be to remove herself from the population thereby reducing the planetary burden by the consumption level of an adult instead of only a child? I wonder if she ever scolds her mother for making such a selfish decision as having a child (Herself) and burdening the planet. As I said, these people are just hanging their selfishness on an environmental coatrack so they can sleep at night. I just love the twisted logic some people use to rationalize purely selfish behavior.

If Ms. Vernelli was truly a believer in the logic she espoused, wouldn’t the next obvious step be to remove herself from the population thereby reducing the planetary burden by the consumption level of an adult instead of only a child?

I wonder if she ever scolds her mother for making such a selfish decision as having a child (Herself) and burdening the planet.

As I said, these people are just hanging their selfishness on an environmental coatrack so they can sleep at night.

]]> By: Buffy http://www.minthegap.com/2007/12/16/a-cultural-disconnect/#comment-78543 Buffy Sun, 16 Dec 2007 16:49:16 +0000 http://www.minthegap.com/2007/12/16/a-cultural-disconnect/#comment-78543 Well, at least she didn't carry on getting pregnant and having abortions like they do in some countries (so I've heard). It's a strange logic that says the world is a bad and damaged place so I won't have children. Surely having children and raising them to be respectful towards the Earth and other people, to be positive human citizens who are compassionate and thoughtful of others is the best way to make the world a better and more healthy place in the future? Well, at least she didn’t carry on getting pregnant and having abortions like they do in some countries (so I’ve heard).

It’s a strange logic that says the world is a bad and damaged place so I won’t have children. Surely having children and raising them to be respectful towards the Earth and other people, to be positive human citizens who are compassionate and thoughtful of others is the best way to make the world a better and more healthy place in the future?

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