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	<title>Comments on: What Does It Mean to Be Abstinent?</title>
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	<description>Standing in the Gap in a Society that's Warring with God.</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 01:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Arthur</title>
		<link>http://www.minthegap.com/2007/11/09/what-does-it-mean-to-be-abstinent/comment-page-1/#comment-79022</link>
		<dc:creator>Arthur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 16:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again the&#160;powers of the world&#160;fail to imitate Christ and Christian morality.&#160; How shocking.

&lt;em&gt;Arthur's last blog post..&lt;a href='http://www.arthureiss.com/?p=28'&gt;Debating the Atheist - Dinesh D?Souza&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again the&nbsp;powers of the world&nbsp;fail to imitate Christ and Christian morality.&nbsp; How shocking.</p>
<p><em>Arthur&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://www.arthureiss.com/?p=28'>Debating the Atheist - Dinesh D?Souza</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: devonwaring</title>
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		<dc:creator>devonwaring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 15:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>education starts from home, alot of those schools just have their hand tight up due to parents requests of what they are allowed and not allowed to tell the kid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>education starts from home, alot of those schools just have their hand tight up due to parents requests of what they are allowed and not allowed to tell the kid.</p>
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		<title>By: Paulo</title>
		<link>http://www.minthegap.com/2007/11/09/what-does-it-mean-to-be-abstinent/comment-page-1/#comment-77999</link>
		<dc:creator>Paulo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somehow... I don't understand what is worng with this generation. I am a Photographer ( www.paulopics.com ) and 40 years old. I am originaly from Brazil... and I don't remember have ever had a "sex education" class.
But if you going to teach something to the kids.. is how to protect themselves from wrong sexual experiences and not how to avoid sex.

paulo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somehow&#8230; I don&#8217;t understand what is worng with this generation. I am a Photographer ( <a href="http://www.paulopics.com" >http://www.paulopics.com</a> ) and 40 years old. I am originaly from Brazil&#8230; and I don&#8217;t remember have ever had a &#8220;sex education&#8221; class.<br />
But if you going to teach something to the kids.. is how to protect themselves from wrong sexual experiences and not how to avoid sex.</p>
<p>paulo</p>
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		<title>By: Musicguy</title>
		<link>http://www.minthegap.com/2007/11/09/what-does-it-mean-to-be-abstinent/comment-page-1/#comment-77994</link>
		<dc:creator>Musicguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting study.  I wonder if it has been replicated in the last decade and a half.  (Here's my peer-reviewed public service announcement again)

I couldn't find the word "abstinence" one time in that article.  That's quite a leap you make.  

I don't think anyone is going to argue about partners being faithful in a relationship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting study.  I wonder if it has been replicated in the last decade and a half.  (Here&#8217;s my peer-reviewed public service announcement again)</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t find the word &#8220;abstinence&#8221; one time in that article.  That&#8217;s quite a leap you make.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think anyone is going to argue about partners being faithful in a relationship.</p>
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		<title>By: MInTheGap</title>
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		<dc:creator>MInTheGap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 19:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm sorry for the confusion, Musicguy.  I was writing from memory and without the time for specifics.  The "one country" in Africa that I was referring to is &lt;a href="http://allafrica.com/stories/200708230217.html"&gt;Uganda&lt;/a&gt;:
&lt;blockquote&gt;A United Nations Aids researcher had read it, failed to understand its significance or to credit it and, Epstein recounts, &lt;b&gt;wrongly concluded that an increase in condom use was responsible for the decrease of the HIV rate in Uganda&lt;/b&gt;. In reality, according to three later analyses of Ankrah's study, &lt;b&gt;the primary reason for the decline was completely different: substantial numbers of Ugandans had ended affairs and remained faithful to one partner&lt;/b&gt;. [Emphasis mine]&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You see, I think we all think in a bubble-- that the U.S. is the barometer for the world, when it's not.  What's working to stem the tide of HIV in Uganda?  The U.N. wanted to say condoms, but it's the opposite.  It was abstinence before marriage, faithfulness inside of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry for the confusion, Musicguy.  I was writing from memory and without the time for specifics.  The &#8220;one country&#8221; in Africa that I was referring to is <a href="http://allafrica.com/stories/200708230217.html">Uganda</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>A United Nations Aids researcher had read it, failed to understand its significance or to credit it and, Epstein recounts, <b>wrongly concluded that an increase in condom use was responsible for the decrease of the HIV rate in Uganda</b>. In reality, according to three later analyses of Ankrah&#8217;s study, <b>the primary reason for the decline was completely different: substantial numbers of Ugandans had ended affairs and remained faithful to one partner</b>. [Emphasis mine]</p></blockquote>
<p>You see, I think we all think in a bubble&#8211; that the U.S. is the barometer for the world, when it&#8217;s not.  What&#8217;s working to stem the tide of HIV in Uganda?  The U.N. wanted to say condoms, but it&#8217;s the opposite.  It was abstinence before marriage, faithfulness inside of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Musicguy</title>
		<link>http://www.minthegap.com/2007/11/09/what-does-it-mean-to-be-abstinent/comment-page-1/#comment-77988</link>
		<dc:creator>Musicguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 06:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"If you look at Africa, take a look at what’s happening with HIV over there and the comparative programs. You’ll see that the one country that has a positive abstinence message is the one that’s making the most headway against the dreaded disease."

Considering they are still #1 in regards to HIV infection, you're going to have to provide some proof to this claim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you look at Africa, take a look at what’s happening with HIV over there and the comparative programs. You’ll see that the one country that has a positive abstinence message is the one that’s making the most headway against the dreaded disease.&#8221;</p>
<p>Considering they are still #1 in regards to HIV infection, you&#8217;re going to have to provide some proof to this claim.</p>
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		<title>By: MInTheGap</title>
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		<dc:creator>MInTheGap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to wonder what you mean by "work" Martha.  Obviously, the comprehensive education that they gave in California didn't "work" when it came to properly defining sexual terms.  Also, it's unfair to judge a program simply on what is taught in the classroom.  There are too many factors involved in the decision of when to start having sex (parents being the major one) that any success it has in delaying the onset of sexual activity should be lauded.

Abstinence from sexual activity until marriage is repressive in the same way that anti-smoking, anti-drugs and dieting is repressive.  They are all meant to help you to live healthier lives.  It is statistically proven that those that wait longer to engage in sex are less likely to come down with a damaging or life threatening illness.  They're not going to get pregnant.  Should we cease having people tell kids not to smoke, drink or do drugs because "they're going to do it anyway?"

There are thousands, if not millions, of people that stayed virgins until their wedding night, and many over the history of the world that died only having one sexual partner.  So, saying it doesn't work is false.

We tell kids to suppress urges all the time.  "Don't talk with your mouth full."  "Don't steal from the store."  "Don't call your sister names."  "Don't eat a snack, we're just about to have dinner."  "Hold it until we get home."

These are all natural urges that we tell them not to do (with varying degrees of success, I will give you), but we expect them to obey these more trivial things that will not give them a deadly disease, give them a disease that may change their life, totally alter a relationship, or bring a new life into the world.  Why is it that we can expect them to curb their natural impulses in the small things but not the big things?

If you look at Africa, take a look at what's happening with HIV over there and the comparative programs.  You'll see that the one country that has a positive abstinence message is the one that's making the most headway against the dreaded disease.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to wonder what you mean by &#8220;work&#8221; Martha.  Obviously, the comprehensive education that they gave in California didn&#8217;t &#8220;work&#8221; when it came to properly defining sexual terms.  Also, it&#8217;s unfair to judge a program simply on what is taught in the classroom.  There are too many factors involved in the decision of when to start having sex (parents being the major one) that any success it has in delaying the onset of sexual activity should be lauded.</p>
<p>Abstinence from sexual activity until marriage is repressive in the same way that anti-smoking, anti-drugs and dieting is repressive.  They are all meant to help you to live healthier lives.  It is statistically proven that those that wait longer to engage in sex are less likely to come down with a damaging or life threatening illness.  They&#8217;re not going to get pregnant.  Should we cease having people tell kids not to smoke, drink or do drugs because &#8220;they&#8217;re going to do it anyway?&#8221;</p>
<p>There are thousands, if not millions, of people that stayed virgins until their wedding night, and many over the history of the world that died only having one sexual partner.  So, saying it doesn&#8217;t work is false.</p>
<p>We tell kids to suppress urges all the time.  &#8220;Don&#8217;t talk with your mouth full.&#8221;  &#8220;Don&#8217;t steal from the store.&#8221;  &#8220;Don&#8217;t call your sister names.&#8221;  &#8220;Don&#8217;t eat a snack, we&#8217;re just about to have dinner.&#8221;  &#8220;Hold it until we get home.&#8221;</p>
<p>These are all natural urges that we tell them not to do (with varying degrees of success, I will give you), but we expect them to obey these more trivial things that will not give them a deadly disease, give them a disease that may change their life, totally alter a relationship, or bring a new life into the world.  Why is it that we can expect them to curb their natural impulses in the small things but not the big things?</p>
<p>If you look at Africa, take a look at what&#8217;s happening with HIV over there and the comparative programs.  You&#8217;ll see that the one country that has a positive abstinence message is the one that&#8217;s making the most headway against the dreaded disease.</p>
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		<title>By: Martha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abstinence only programs don't work either. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6927733.stm  And if you don't teach about contraception, pregnancy rates soar. In my opinion, abstinence is an outdated and frankly repressive idea, which frankly doesn't work.  Sex and sexuality are natural and beautiful things, and to say you have to just somehow suppress those God-given, powerful urges until you are married doesn't work.  Tell a kid not to do anything and they will do it.  Our culture's repressive and misplaced ideas about sex are causing the problems. Ironically it's perfectly fine to show movies and tv show's that depict murder, violence, and torture, but put a scene in there with real love making, and it's censored.  Europeans think we are nuts.  It's just the opposite over there.  They know that violence begets violence, love begets love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abstinence only programs don&#8217;t work either. <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6927733.stm" >http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6927733.stm</a>  And if you don&#8217;t teach about contraception, pregnancy rates soar. In my opinion, abstinence is an outdated and frankly repressive idea, which frankly doesn&#8217;t work.  Sex and sexuality are natural and beautiful things, and to say you have to just somehow suppress those God-given, powerful urges until you are married doesn&#8217;t work.  Tell a kid not to do anything and they will do it.  Our culture&#8217;s repressive and misplaced ideas about sex are causing the problems. Ironically it&#8217;s perfectly fine to show movies and tv show&#8217;s that depict murder, violence, and torture, but put a scene in there with real love making, and it&#8217;s censored.  Europeans think we are nuts.  It&#8217;s just the opposite over there.  They know that violence begets violence, love begets love.</p>
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		<title>By: Del Allegood</title>
		<link>http://www.minthegap.com/2007/11/09/what-does-it-mean-to-be-abstinent/comment-page-1/#comment-77977</link>
		<dc:creator>Del Allegood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 02:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My song,"In The Shadows',about abortion, is a free download on http://audiostreet.net/delbertwallegood  NPUBLICI</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My song,&#8221;In The Shadows&#8217;,about abortion, is a free download on <a href="http://audiostreet.net/delbertwallegood" >http://audiostreet.net/delbertwallegood</a>  NPUBLICI</p>
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		<title>By: Musicguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Musicguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dorothy, if you look at STD rates in North America as compared to the rest of the world, we rank the lowest, and have for a very long time.  Obviously something is working to keep our rates as low as they are.  Check out World Health Organization for stats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dorothy, if you look at STD rates in North America as compared to the rest of the world, we rank the lowest, and have for a very long time.  Obviously something is working to keep our rates as low as they are.  Check out World Health Organization for stats.</p>
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