Comments on: Should Women Keep Silent in Church? http://www.minthegap.com/2006/09/29/should-women-keep-silent-in-church/ Standing in the Gap in a Society that's Warring with God. Wed, 25 Jan 2012 19:17:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Greg http://www.minthegap.com/2006/09/29/should-women-keep-silent-in-church/comment-page-1/#comment-87032 Greg Tue, 10 May 2011 21:12:24 +0000 http://www.minthegap.com/?p=888#comment-87032 What I mean is that women (who oppose this teaching) don't believe in the value and greatness of submission and servant-hood. Our society does not value submission, nor does it value humility. What I mean is that women (who oppose this teaching) don’t believe in the value and greatness of submission and servant-hood. Our society does not value submission, nor does it value humility.

]]> By: Greg http://www.minthegap.com/2006/09/29/should-women-keep-silent-in-church/comment-page-1/#comment-87031 Greg Tue, 10 May 2011 21:05:21 +0000 http://www.minthegap.com/?p=888#comment-87031 RE: Dixon: As in ALL the churches of the saints, the women should keep silence in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be subordinate, as even the law says …what I am writing to you is a command of the Lord" (1 Cor. 14:33–34,37). "All" means all churches everywhere and at every time. The Bible is not a book useful only to the first century church or to Christians only in Corinth. The Bible instructs and is the final authority for the 2nd century church, the 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10, 11th, 12th, 13th, 14th, 15th, 16th, 17th, 18th, 19, 20th and yes, also the 21st century church. If God wanted women to speak in church He might have just said nothing and gotten the result he wanted for, having said the opposite, and as plainly as possible, most modern churches STILL believe it's ok with God for women to speak in church. Obviously, women have a dog in this race, as they do in the submission issue, hence they resist this teaching the most. It's akin to our inability to understand what Jesus said about whoever wants to be the greatest (among the apostles) must be the servant of all. RE: Dixon: As in ALL the churches of the saints, the women should keep silence in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be subordinate, as even the law says …what I am writing to you is a command of the Lord” (1 Cor. 14:33–34,37).

“All” means all churches everywhere and at every time. The Bible is not a book useful only to the first century church or to Christians only in Corinth. The Bible instructs and is the final authority for the 2nd century church, the 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10, 11th, 12th, 13th, 14th, 15th, 16th, 17th, 18th, 19, 20th and yes, also the 21st century church.

If God wanted women to speak in church He might have just said nothing and gotten the result he wanted for, having said the opposite, and as plainly as possible, most modern churches STILL believe it’s ok with God for women to speak in church.

Obviously, women have a dog in this race, as they do in the submission issue, hence they resist this teaching the most. It’s akin to our inability to understand what Jesus said about whoever wants to be the greatest (among the apostles) must be the servant of all.

]]> By: Keith Dixon http://www.minthegap.com/2006/09/29/should-women-keep-silent-in-church/comment-page-1/#comment-86834 Keith Dixon Tue, 08 Mar 2011 03:19:03 +0000 http://www.minthegap.com/?p=888#comment-86834 Yes I do believe in woman pastor long that a man over them is ok for them to preach. paul did not talk about every church in the world. I disagree with some people statement. I go to full Gospel baptist chuch yes we have woman who preach. Yes I do believe in woman pastor long that a man over them is ok for them to preach. paul did not talk about every church in the world. I disagree with some people statement. I go to full Gospel baptist chuch yes we have woman who preach.

]]> By: Gamintz Dominique http://www.minthegap.com/2006/09/29/should-women-keep-silent-in-church/comment-page-1/#comment-85523 Gamintz Dominique Thu, 15 Oct 2009 06:23:10 +0000 http://www.minthegap.com/?p=888#comment-85523 If we should keep silence in churches ,would every men in churches be able to teach ? but now we found most women being a beleiver than men. Even with Jesus women was arround him ,he was the teacher,but now some women have to prophetise to men since some of them are unbeleiver ,the one that are use the Bible as theire advantage,we should not speak at churhc said Paul did he also say we should be working to pay all or some of the bills when men failled to kept his duty ,we open our eyes then we all have our soul thanks to Jesus now even we are on our monthly period we can still go to church are you going to try to saet us down also on our period. If we should keep silence in churches ,would every men in churches be able to teach ? but now we found
most women being a beleiver than men. Even with Jesus
women was arround him ,he was the teacher,but now some women have to prophetise to men since some of them are unbeleiver ,the one that are use the Bible as theire advantage,we should not speak at churhc said Paul did he also say we should be working to pay all or some of the bills when men failled to kept his duty ,we open our eyes then we all have our soul thanks to Jesus now even we are on our monthly period we can still go to church are you going to try to saet us down also on our period.

]]> By: MInTheGap http://www.minthegap.com/2006/09/29/should-women-keep-silent-in-church/comment-page-1/#comment-75830 MInTheGap Thu, 30 Aug 2007 02:44:51 +0000 http://www.minthegap.com/?p=888#comment-75830 I'm sorry the posts frighten you, Alex. I believe my post references a Christian Church and discusses who should minister in the Christian church. What document, but the Bible, dictates what should happen inside of a church building? Certainly the Constitution's guarantees of freedom of assembly allow any group of people to assemble under any given rules they want. If I want to make a club where all members have to wear red shirts and dye their hair red I should be allowed to under the Constitution. I am by no means saying that all women every where have to wear burqas, or else they will be imprisoned. I'm not advocating the government (or even a local assembly) enforce a law that no woman speak or she be barred from worship. I'm simply asking the question about what the Lord thinks is glorifying to Him in <b>His</b> church. Certainly, there is much difference between me-- who is attempting to live by the Word of God but I am not forcing it on anyone, am not in a position of power or authority to demand that it be followed, and certainly will not kill anyone for it, and a regime that demands certain dress codes by even non-believers in society As a Muslim, I do not have any problem with whatever you wife wants to do wherever she is. I believe that she doesn't possess saving faith, I don't think that she will go to Heaven when she dies because it takes a belief in Christ as Savior to do that, but I'm not forcing her to go to my church, pretend to be a Christian, or even to be silent in a church. So how is that not different? I’m sorry the posts frighten you, Alex. I believe my post references a Christian Church and discusses who should minister in the Christian church. What document, but the Bible, dictates what should happen inside of a church building? Certainly the Constitution’s guarantees of freedom of assembly allow any group of people to assemble under any given rules they want. If I want to make a club where all members have to wear red shirts and dye their hair red I should be allowed to under the Constitution.

I am by no means saying that all women every where have to wear burqas, or else they will be imprisoned. I’m not advocating the government (or even a local assembly) enforce a law that no woman speak or she be barred from worship. I’m simply asking the question about what the Lord thinks is glorifying to Him in His church.

Certainly, there is much difference between me– who is attempting to live by the Word of God but I am not forcing it on anyone, am not in a position of power or authority to demand that it be followed, and certainly will not kill anyone for it, and a regime that demands certain dress codes by even non-believers in society

As a Muslim, I do not have any problem with whatever you wife wants to do wherever she is. I believe that she doesn’t possess saving faith, I don’t think that she will go to Heaven when she dies because it takes a belief in Christ as Savior to do that, but I’m not forcing her to go to my church, pretend to be a Christian, or even to be silent in a church.

So how is that not different?

]]> By: alex scrivens http://www.minthegap.com/2006/09/29/should-women-keep-silent-in-church/comment-page-1/#comment-75822 alex scrivens Wed, 29 Aug 2007 20:22:00 +0000 http://www.minthegap.com/?p=888#comment-75822 These posts fills me with fear,. The concepts of equality and freedom held so dear nd fought for so hard in the last century are being undermined in a two prong attack from fundamentalists in the West and fundamentalists in the middle east. There is no real difference between you all..fundamentalism is just what it says...whether you are a jihadist or a misogynist, religion creates intolerance of each other... My wife is a Muslim, she believes wholeheartedly in her creator, but she lives freely and is able to choose her role, now that she lives in a secular nation. She is now free to choose her spirirtual path, and her personal choice about her personal religion will always be decided by herself, freely, and I hope that no man will dictate to her silence. These posts fills me with fear,. The concepts of equality and freedom held so dear nd fought for so hard in the last century are being undermined in a two prong attack from fundamentalists in the West and fundamentalists in the middle east.

There is no real difference between you all..fundamentalism is just what it says…whether you are a jihadist or a misogynist, religion creates intolerance of each other…

My wife is a Muslim, she believes wholeheartedly in her creator, but she lives freely and is able to choose her role, now that she lives in a secular nation.

She is now free to choose her spirirtual path, and her personal choice about her personal religion will always be decided by herself, freely, and I hope that no man will dictate to her silence.

]]> By: MInTheGap http://www.minthegap.com/2006/09/29/should-women-keep-silent-in-church/comment-page-1/#comment-73189 MInTheGap Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:01:41 +0000 http://www.minthegap.com/?p=888#comment-73189 You ask a good question, Dee. I've seen some say that a woman that's not under a husband's authority is under her parents authority still. I don't know if I necessarily agree with the statement, but I can see where they get it Biblically. As far as who to ask and what to do-- I would start with your pastor/parents. I would seek to do those things that honor and glorify God, but I think your biblical status would be more along the lines of a widow in context-- since you have children but are not married-- and a lot of the unmarried Scripture have more to do with those without children. So, as far as I can tell, you're doing right in your actions, and may God bless you in your desire to serve Him. You ask a good question, Dee. I’ve seen some say that a woman that’s not under a husband’s authority is under her parents authority still. I don’t know if I necessarily agree with the statement, but I can see where they get it Biblically.

As far as who to ask and what to do– I would start with your pastor/parents. I would seek to do those things that honor and glorify God, but I think your biblical status would be more along the lines of a widow in context– since you have children but are not married– and a lot of the unmarried Scripture have more to do with those without children.

So, as far as I can tell, you’re doing right in your actions, and may God bless you in your desire to serve Him.

]]> By: dee http://www.minthegap.com/2006/09/29/should-women-keep-silent-in-church/comment-page-1/#comment-73187 dee Wed, 20 Jun 2007 11:40:35 +0000 http://www.minthegap.com/?p=888#comment-73187 what about those who have no husbands? i have no husband, and what if ur husband is not saved or knows anything about the bible? when i became a christian (born again) i became wiser of what kind of husband or boyfriend i would get, and it would be a a born again, preacher, wise man in the word, very kind and loving to his wife, and be the leader and head of the house, he would be the teacher, leader and preacher of my children, cause men are to teach their children, and what if i never have a husband or decide not to? who do i ask? are my only duties in a church to prophesy and pray like anna(the one who was in the church dat and night praying?) for she was a prophetess? the only husband i had was the lord, because the word says "the virgin seeks to please the lord", i have 2 children and have no husband or boyfriend, but have the lord so what i do is pray to God to give me wisdon to raise my children in his way because there is no father figure to teach them but you know what? God is my husband, so he brings them up in his way through me, thank you what about those who have no husbands? i have no husband, and what if ur husband is not saved or knows anything about the bible? when i became a christian (born again) i became wiser of what kind of husband or boyfriend i would get, and it would be a a born again, preacher, wise man in the word, very kind and loving to his wife, and be the leader and head of the house, he would be the teacher, leader and preacher of my children, cause men are to teach their children, and what if i never have a husband or decide not to? who do i ask? are my only duties in a church to prophesy and pray like anna(the one who was in the church dat and night praying?) for she was a prophetess? the only husband i had was the lord, because the word says “the virgin seeks to please the lord”, i have 2 children and have no husband or boyfriend, but have the lord so what i do is pray to God to give me wisdon to raise my children in his way because there is no father figure to teach them but you know what? God is my husband, so he brings them up in his way through me, thank you

]]> By: Noel http://www.minthegap.com/2006/09/29/should-women-keep-silent-in-church/comment-page-1/#comment-66712 Noel Mon, 26 Mar 2007 06:41:32 +0000 http://www.minthegap.com/?p=888#comment-66712 I'm a man, so all you women better listen :biggrin: Did the Pharisee's reject Christ's birth because it was spoken by a women? 'And she coming in that instant gave thanks likewise unto the Lord, and spake of him to all them that looked for redemption in Jerusalem' Luke 2:38 KJV I’m a man, so all you women better listen :biggrin:

Did the Pharisee’s reject Christ’s birth because it was spoken by a women?

‘And she coming in that instant gave thanks likewise unto the Lord, and spake of him to all them that looked for redemption in Jerusalem’ Luke 2:38 KJV

]]> By: MInTheGap http://www.minthegap.com/2006/09/29/should-women-keep-silent-in-church/comment-page-1/#comment-56533 MInTheGap Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:52:36 +0000 http://www.minthegap.com/?p=888#comment-56533 Mr. Brewer, This site is in no way as malicious as you suggest. #1. Some emoticons are automatically converted to smilies since people know the emoticons better than their colon counterparts. So : ) when put together becomes :) and " ) becomes "). When I've seen it in a comment and had the chance, I've gone back and fixed it (like you see in your previous comment) by adding a space after the ". #2. The plugin that I'm using for Avatars came with a set of images that are randomly selected for people that have not commented before. Below the comment box is a link that would let you select your own avatar from a list after one comment-- so you are certainly free to select a different one, or, if you e-mail me one that you would like, I will make it so that you have that one. As you can see, you are no longer the Devil symbol, and that avatar was purged from the system. That was an oversight on my part-- I should have done a better job of making sure that all avatars (though they may be ugly) are not offensive. I guess I need to put a higher priority on finding some new ones. So no, I only get involved with editing comments when something goes wrong (like your propensity to put things with quotes in parenthesis), and I am glad that you come by and read and comment here. Anything else that I can do to make your stay more enjoyable, let me know. Mr. Brewer,

This site is in no way as malicious as you suggest.

#1. Some emoticons are automatically converted to smilies since people know the emoticons better than their colon counterparts. So : ) when put together becomes :) and ” ) becomes “). When I’ve seen it in a comment and had the chance, I’ve gone back and fixed it (like you see in your previous comment) by adding a space after the “.

#2. The plugin that I’m using for Avatars came with a set of images that are randomly selected for people that have not commented before. Below the comment box is a link that would let you select your own avatar from a list after one comment– so you are certainly free to select a different one, or, if you e-mail me one that you would like, I will make it so that you have that one.

As you can see, you are no longer the Devil symbol, and that avatar was purged from the system. That was an oversight on my part– I should have done a better job of making sure that all avatars (though they may be ugly) are not offensive. I guess I need to put a higher priority on finding some new ones.

So no, I only get involved with editing comments when something goes wrong (like your propensity to put things with quotes in parenthesis), and I am glad that you come by and read and comment here. Anything else that I can do to make your stay more enjoyable, let me know.

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