Comments on: Girls Can Marry at 15 in Colorado http://www.minthegap.com/2006/08/12/girls-can-marry-at-15-in-colorado/ Standing in the Gap in a Society that's Warring with God. Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:01:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: MInTheGap http://www.minthegap.com/2006/08/12/girls-can-marry-at-15-in-colorado/comment-page-1/#comment-521 MInTheGap Tue, 15 Aug 2006 12:54:08 +0000 http://www.minthegap.com/?p=665#comment-521 What you said got me thinking-- arranged marriages can also have the benefit of being focused on the selfless love aspect rather than the emotional feeling. We've gotten into a position where love is something we fall into and base one of the most important decisions of our lives on. Going out with friends and getting to know the opposite sex is not a bad thing, but when you combind the feelings that "I'll never find anyone else, so I should marry her/him" and "When I'm with him/her I feel so great" (I've heard someone say that it might not be love, it just might be the flu!) you're in for trouble. What you said got me thinking– arranged marriages can also have the benefit of being focused on the selfless love aspect rather than the emotional feeling. We’ve gotten into a position where love is something we fall into and base one of the most important decisions of our lives on.

Going out with friends and getting to know the opposite sex is not a bad thing, but when you combind the feelings that “I’ll never find anyone else, so I should marry her/him” and “When I’m with him/her I feel so great” (I’ve heard someone say that it might not be love, it just might be the flu!) you’re in for trouble.

]]> By: Chris Naron http://www.minthegap.com/2006/08/12/girls-can-marry-at-15-in-colorado/comment-page-1/#comment-518 Chris Naron Tue, 15 Aug 2006 06:55:53 +0000 http://www.minthegap.com/?p=665#comment-518 Your view is refreshing. I thought I was the only one who thinks that people are getting married too old and "practicing divorce" by dating. That's a great way to put it. Dating is stupid and most often destructive. We would have better luck with arranged marriages than we do with the random romance method of today. Your view is refreshing. I thought I was the only one who thinks that people are getting married too old and “practicing divorce” by dating. That’s a great way to put it. Dating is stupid and most often destructive.

We would have better luck with arranged marriages than we do with the random romance method of today.

]]> By: MInTheGap http://www.minthegap.com/2006/08/12/girls-can-marry-at-15-in-colorado/comment-page-1/#comment-511 MInTheGap Mon, 14 Aug 2006 12:57:20 +0000 http://www.minthegap.com/?p=665#comment-511 You're probably right-- hard for me to show when I'm being satirical and when I'm being straight. Guess I need to use more smileys. :) However, I am certain that when marriage occured younger you probably also didn't have such early puberty and they definitely didn't have the problem of unwed pregnancy. You’re probably right– hard for me to show when I’m being satirical and when I’m being straight. Guess I need to use more smileys. :) However, I am certain that when marriage occured younger you probably also didn’t have such early puberty and they definitely didn’t have the problem of unwed pregnancy.

]]> By: John C. http://www.minthegap.com/2006/08/12/girls-can-marry-at-15-in-colorado/comment-page-1/#comment-507 John C. Mon, 14 Aug 2006 12:33:01 +0000 http://www.minthegap.com/?p=665#comment-507 In regards to your last parapgraph, I completely disagree. The boy should marry at 14 because he hit puberty and this would cause pregnancies out of wedlock to decrease? I understand that this stance comes from not wanting to use birth control, so i'm not going to address that. However, I think its equally unresponsible to encourage kids to just get married as soon as they hit puberty and have sex whenever because being married makes that ok. I don't think two teenagers with 3-5 kids attempting to finish high school or college is a particularly good idea for the couple or the kids, but maybe im just losing it. :) In regards to your last parapgraph, I completely disagree. The boy should marry at 14 because he hit puberty and this would cause pregnancies out of wedlock to decrease?

I understand that this stance comes from not wanting to use birth control, so i’m not going to address that. However, I think its equally unresponsible to encourage kids to just get married as soon as they hit puberty and have sex whenever because being married makes that ok. I don’t think two teenagers with 3-5 kids attempting to finish high school or college is a particularly good idea for the couple or the kids, but maybe im just losing it. :)

]]> By: Mary http://www.minthegap.com/2006/08/12/girls-can-marry-at-15-in-colorado/comment-page-1/#comment-498 Mary Sun, 13 Aug 2006 20:48:17 +0000 http://www.minthegap.com/?p=665#comment-498 Interesting...to say the least. I've read so many wonderful courtship stories...but I don't want to lose my daughters to someone far away? Assuming you are far away! You are right about homeschooled kids, for the most part. My comment was more for the kids in CO who were in question as per your original post. I married at 18...went right out from my papa's wings to my new husband's and for us, it was ideal. But I know others that did the same and regretted it. The candidates would definitely have to have God as #1 in their life, and know it was His will. And live in the bride's home state, of course. :O) Interesting…to say the least. I’ve read so many wonderful courtship stories…but I don’t want to lose my daughters to someone far away? Assuming you are far away!
You are right about homeschooled kids, for the most part. My comment was more for the kids in CO who were in question as per your original post. I married at 18…went right out from my papa’s wings to my new husband’s and for us, it was ideal. But I know others that did the same and regretted it. The candidates would definitely have to have God as #1 in their life, and know it was His will.
And live in the bride’s home state, of course.
:O)

]]> By: MInTheGap http://www.minthegap.com/2006/08/12/girls-can-marry-at-15-in-colorado/comment-page-1/#comment-496 MInTheGap Sun, 13 Aug 2006 19:34:01 +0000 http://www.minthegap.com/?p=665#comment-496 I cannot take credit for the "practicing divorce" idea-- I think it originally came from Elizabeth Elliott. You may be teasing?! :) I think I'm going to have to speak to your husband and see how much livestock I can get (or is it I have to pay) to get one of your daughters. :) The whole leaving and cleaving thing is interesting. Certainly it's Biblical, but if I recall the whole process correctly, the man would be preparing a place for the woman off his father's house-- on the ancestral land. Would that mean that it would be the woman that would be doing more of the leaving? Homeschooled kids-- correct me if I'm wrong-- show much more maturity at a younger age. We had a girl visit our church a couple times and I would have sworn she was 16 or 18 and yet she was only 13! (At least, I think that was the case.) Financial is definitely something to be concerned about-- especially since we don't allow children to work! In any case, I think that we're going to find ourselves making interesting choices in the generations to come that may put us either back to where our forefathers had come from or following the world that's going to practice freeform families. I cannot take credit for the “practicing divorce” idea– I think it originally came from Elizabeth Elliott.

You may be teasing?! :) I think I’m going to have to speak to your husband and see how much livestock I can get (or is it I have to pay) to get one of your daughters. :)
The whole leaving and cleaving thing is interesting. Certainly it’s Biblical, but if I recall the whole process correctly, the man would be preparing a place for the woman off his father’s house– on the ancestral land. Would that mean that it would be the woman that would be doing more of the leaving?

Homeschooled kids– correct me if I’m wrong– show much more maturity at a younger age. We had a girl visit our church a couple times and I would have sworn she was 16 or 18 and yet she was only 13! (At least, I think that was the case.) Financial is definitely something to be concerned about– especially since we don’t allow children to work!

In any case, I think that we’re going to find ourselves making interesting choices in the generations to come that may put us either back to where our forefathers had come from or following the world that’s going to practice freeform families.

]]> By: Mary http://www.minthegap.com/2006/08/12/girls-can-marry-at-15-in-colorado/comment-page-1/#comment-495 Mary Sun, 13 Aug 2006 19:27:17 +0000 http://www.minthegap.com/?p=665#comment-495 "practicing divorce through dating"! That's a good one. Maybe we should plan a courtship...I have one young enough for one of yours I think...;O) I may be teasing you, but I so see what you mean. About dating. But are you saying that if kids married that young, they should stay in one side's home till they were older...for added support? What about leaving and cleaving? My main reasons for them needing to wait (besides maturity) would be financial... “practicing divorce through dating”! That’s a good one. Maybe we should plan a courtship…I have one young enough for one of yours I think…;O)
I may be teasing you, but I so see what you mean. About dating. But are you saying that if kids married that young, they should stay in one side’s home till they were older…for added support? What about leaving and cleaving? My main reasons for them needing to wait (besides maturity) would be financial…

]]> By: MInTheGap http://www.minthegap.com/2006/08/12/girls-can-marry-at-15-in-colorado/comment-page-1/#comment-490 MInTheGap Sun, 13 Aug 2006 18:44:22 +0000 http://www.minthegap.com/?p=665#comment-490 I think that families could start earlier, even in the U.S., if they started out living in their parents home and had that support. I think relationships would have a better chance of being stronger if we didn't "practice divorce" through dating. I think we may have lost some things in our process of making sure people are treated equal. I think that families could start earlier, even in the U.S., if they started out living in their parents home and had that support. I think relationships would have a better chance of being stronger if we didn’t “practice divorce” through dating. I think we may have lost some things in our process of making sure people are treated equal.

]]> By: Mary http://www.minthegap.com/2006/08/12/girls-can-marry-at-15-in-colorado/comment-page-1/#comment-489 Mary Sun, 13 Aug 2006 13:41:14 +0000 http://www.minthegap.com/?p=665#comment-489 This drives me crazy! Way to go Colorado! Why is giving them permission to shack up better than giving them permission to marry? And on the marriage/age question...I doubt you could find many teens in the USA at age 15 who could make a success of marriage. But their chance for successful marriage is jeopardized even more if they begin by living together! It's like the argument (one that also trips my trigger) some Christian parents rationalize that if their kids are going to have sex anyway, they might as well put them on birth control. ??? Give the green light, why don't you? Scary, to condone something God says is sin. This drives me crazy! Way to go Colorado!
Why is giving them permission to shack up better than giving them permission to marry? And on the marriage/age question…I doubt you could find many teens in the USA at age 15 who could make a success of marriage. But their chance for successful marriage is jeopardized even more if they begin by living together!
It’s like the argument (one that also trips my trigger) some Christian parents rationalize that if their kids are going to have sex anyway, they might as well put them on birth control. ??? Give the green light, why don’t you? Scary, to condone something God says is sin.

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