Comments on: Church Women Raise Money with Nude Calendar http://www.minthegap.com/2006/08/10/church-women-raise-money-with-nude-calendar/ Standing in the Gap in a Society that's Warring with God. Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:57:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: MInTheGap http://www.minthegap.com/2006/08/10/church-women-raise-money-with-nude-calendar/comment-page-1/#comment-1707 MInTheGap Mon, 18 Sep 2006 01:11:55 +0000 http://www.minthegap.com/?p=676#comment-1707 George Foreman, per your request your three comments have been deleted-- the two that were inappropriate and your warning. This is a family friendly blog and we appreciate good discussion and even dissent. Thanks for the warning! As for your point, Jesus was actually very radical. He didn't accept the Pharisee's hypocrisy. He said that the way to follow Him was narrow. He said that He came to set families at odds with each other. This kind of Jesus drew crowds because He was different, not because He was the same as everyone else. He loved everyone, but He had conditions and a standard-- a standard that made even thoughts to commit sin into sin! Louise, I don't think what was displayed is as offensive as the thought behind it, though. This calendar does not sell because it's women that really want a well dug-- it's the thought of naked women on a calendar. As Christ pointed out in Matthew 5, it's just as important to think about what is going on as it is what is thought about. Clearly these women (as you say) thought about what they were taking advantage of: the fact that there's popularity in these women claiming to be naked behind things. They knew they were tapping into a culture of sex and trying to cash in. Ella, God certainly did create their bodies, but He also created them with shame and provided a covering after the fall. I certainly doubt He would approve of appealing to the flesh when He could certainly pay for it another way. The point here is that the ends do not justify the means, and there were ways that this money could have been raised other than this calendar. George Foreman, per your request your three comments have been deleted– the two that were inappropriate and your warning. This is a family friendly blog and we appreciate good discussion and even dissent. Thanks for the warning!

As for your point, Jesus was actually very radical. He didn’t accept the Pharisee’s hypocrisy. He said that the way to follow Him was narrow. He said that He came to set families at odds with each other. This kind of Jesus drew crowds because He was different, not because He was the same as everyone else. He loved everyone, but He had conditions and a standard– a standard that made even thoughts to commit sin into sin!

Louise, I don’t think what was displayed is as offensive as the thought behind it, though. This calendar does not sell because it’s women that really want a well dug– it’s the thought of naked women on a calendar. As Christ pointed out in Matthew 5, it’s just as important to think about what is going on as it is what is thought about. Clearly these women (as you say) thought about what they were taking advantage of: the fact that there’s popularity in these women claiming to be naked behind things. They knew they were tapping into a culture of sex and trying to cash in.

Ella, God certainly did create their bodies, but He also created them with shame and provided a covering after the fall. I certainly doubt He would approve of appealing to the flesh when He could certainly pay for it another way.

The point here is that the ends do not justify the means, and there were ways that this money could have been raised other than this calendar.

]]> By: ella http://www.minthegap.com/2006/08/10/church-women-raise-money-with-nude-calendar/comment-page-1/#comment-1705 ella Sun, 17 Sep 2006 21:16:05 +0000 http://www.minthegap.com/?p=676#comment-1705 I agree with louise. God gave these women their bodies, so I do not believe that God would not want them to love them. And what better way to show thanks to God for giving these women their bodies than to use them in a way to help the church? After all, it's not as if they're whores who are going the full monty in the name of the church to raise money. They are showing how far they are willing to go to support their church and I admire them for it! (Calendar Girls is very good) I agree with louise. God gave these women their bodies, so I do not believe that God would not want them to love them. And what better way to show thanks to God for giving these women their bodies than to use them in a way to help the church? After all, it’s not as if they’re whores who are going the full monty in the name of the church to raise money. They are showing how far they are willing to go to support their church and I admire them for it!

(Calendar Girls is very good)

]]> By: George Foreman http://www.minthegap.com/2006/08/10/church-women-raise-money-with-nude-calendar/comment-page-1/#comment-1701 George Foreman Sun, 17 Sep 2006 18:55:43 +0000 http://www.minthegap.com/?p=676#comment-1701 You neo-religious men and women are the very people who turn others away from your religion. You push and push and push your religion upon people and it makes people not want anything to do with you or our God. I am a Christian. I love this calendar. I don't approve of many things and I believe that Jesus is the way to heaven but never do I patronize just because someone believes differently than I do. The way to encourage people to come to Christ is to be accepting and cause them to say "Wow I like this God guy. His followers sure do have a good head on their shoulders." Do what God would do. He would accept everyone. Show people that god doesn't discriminate. Make people feel welcome. Be kind and people will see God working through you and will want to be a part of that, too. By insisting that your way is the only way, you only show that God is arogant and discriminatory. Please do the right thing for you and for God. And accept that not everyone believes the same way as you do. Have an open mind and an open heart. It will do more good than what you are doing now. Just be nice. You neo-religious men and women are the very people who turn others away from your religion. You push and push and push your religion upon people and it makes people not want anything to do with you or our God. I am a Christian. I love this calendar. I don’t approve of many things and I believe that Jesus is the way to heaven but never do I patronize just because someone believes differently than I do. The way to encourage people to come to Christ is to be accepting and cause them to say “Wow I like this God guy. His followers sure do have a good head on their shoulders.” Do what God would do. He would accept everyone. Show people that god doesn’t discriminate. Make people feel welcome. Be kind and people will see God working through you and will want to be a part of that, too. By insisting that your way is the only way, you only show that God is arogant and discriminatory. Please do the right thing for you and for God. And accept that not everyone believes the same way as you do. Have an open mind and an open heart. It will do more good than what you are doing now.

Just be nice.

]]> By: Louise http://www.minthegap.com/2006/08/10/church-women-raise-money-with-nude-calendar/comment-page-1/#comment-1696 Louise Sun, 17 Sep 2006 13:58:24 +0000 http://www.minthegap.com/?p=676#comment-1696 taking advantage of these woman? They thought up the idea and loved doing it! The first woman to do this calendar were in England, and they made at least a million for their church, and got so famous they ended up going to America. You see the church is on small island, and it needed running water, and in order to do get running water a well needs to be dug and all the plumbing installed, which is not a cheap thing to do. So to raise money they could have done 30 bake sales to the 87 person population and 20 or 30 vacationers, or one extreamly tastefull calendar. I am assuming you haven't seen it, because in the pictures they are not making seductive poses, just sitting behind flowers were 6 inches of their sholders are showing. p.s. calendar girls is a wonderful movie taking advantage of these woman? They thought up the idea and loved doing it!
The first woman to do this calendar were in England, and they made at least a million for their church, and got so famous they ended up going to America.

You see the church is on small island, and it needed running water, and in order to do get running water a well needs to be dug and all the plumbing installed, which is not a cheap thing to do. So to raise money they could have done 30 bake sales to the 87 person population and 20 or 30 vacationers, or one extreamly tastefull calendar. I am assuming you haven’t seen it, because in the pictures they are not making seductive poses, just sitting behind flowers were 6 inches of their sholders are showing.

p.s. calendar girls is a wonderful movie

]]> By: MInTheGap http://www.minthegap.com/2006/08/10/church-women-raise-money-with-nude-calendar/comment-page-1/#comment-1603 MInTheGap Wed, 13 Sep 2006 13:42:59 +0000 http://www.minthegap.com/?p=676#comment-1603 If it makes you feel any better, Louise, I am consistant. I'm also against people using Bingo to earn money for the church because it's gambling. The question, as I see it, is why can't the church support itself without taking advantage of these women? If it makes you feel any better, Louise, I am consistant. I’m also against people using Bingo to earn money for the church because it’s gambling.

The question, as I see it, is why can’t the church support itself without taking advantage of these women?

]]> By: Louise http://www.minthegap.com/2006/08/10/church-women-raise-money-with-nude-calendar/comment-page-1/#comment-1586 Louise Tue, 12 Sep 2006 23:11:56 +0000 http://www.minthegap.com/?p=676#comment-1586 And as a great musician once said: 'I'd rather laugh with the sinners then cry with the saints the sinner have much more fun' ~Billy Joel And as a great musician once said:

‘I’d rather laugh with the sinners then cry with the saints the sinner have much more fun’
~Billy Joel

]]> By: Louise http://www.minthegap.com/2006/08/10/church-women-raise-money-with-nude-calendar/comment-page-1/#comment-1584 Louise Tue, 12 Sep 2006 23:07:58 +0000 http://www.minthegap.com/?p=676#comment-1584 There is nothing wrong with loving your body and showing it off! These women all over 40 love their bodies and their church enough to take off their clothes in order to make money for it! And I would like you to know that it has been quite lucrative. A bake sale is all well and good, if you are looking to raise 600 dollars, but when you really want to raise money for your church you need to think outside the box. I shudder the think what the world is coming to if people are so offended by people showing off the beautiful bodies God gave them to raise money for a cause they believe in. I also seem to racal many many many nude and semi nude figures in religious art. They are also showing so much less then most bathing suits. I happen to have one of these calendars and love the artfull setting and lovely women. So try to be more open minded and embrace the body you were blessed with! I'd also like to say that once you do a semi nude calendar it doesn't mean your next job will be in a whore house. On that note there are many things out there worse then a simi nude calendar, for example porn. ~Lousie There is nothing wrong with loving your body and showing it off! These women all over 40 love their bodies and their church enough to take off their clothes in order to make money for it! And I would like you to know that it has been quite lucrative. A bake sale is all well and good, if you are looking to raise 600 dollars, but when you really want to raise money for your church you need to think outside the box. I shudder the think what the world is coming to if people are so offended by people showing off the beautiful bodies God gave them to raise money for a cause they believe in. I also seem to racal many many many nude and semi nude figures in religious art. They are also showing so much less then most bathing suits. I happen to have one of these calendars and love the artfull setting and lovely women.

So try to be more open minded and embrace the body you were blessed with!

I’d also like to say that once you do a semi nude calendar it doesn’t mean your next job will be in a whore house.

On that note there are many things out there worse then a simi nude calendar, for example porn.

~Lousie

]]> By: Mrs. Meg Logan http://www.minthegap.com/2006/08/10/church-women-raise-money-with-nude-calendar/comment-page-1/#comment-1102 Mrs. Meg Logan Thu, 31 Aug 2006 00:33:27 +0000 http://www.minthegap.com/?p=676#comment-1102 The state of the world makes me ill... "come Lord Jesus COME!" oh please oh please.... Mrs. Meg Logan The state of the world makes me ill… “come Lord Jesus COME!” oh please oh please….

Mrs. Meg Logan

]]> By: Michael http://www.minthegap.com/2006/08/10/church-women-raise-money-with-nude-calendar/comment-page-1/#comment-1050 Michael Tue, 29 Aug 2006 22:20:03 +0000 http://www.minthegap.com/?p=676#comment-1050 This is completely over the top. There was no need to create such a controversial calendar. This sends terrible messages to the lost world. What were they thinking would happen from this? Incredible. This is completely over the top. There was no need to create such a controversial calendar. This sends terrible messages to the lost world. What were they thinking would happen from this? Incredible.

]]> By: MInTheGap http://www.minthegap.com/2006/08/10/church-women-raise-money-with-nude-calendar/comment-page-1/#comment-454 MInTheGap Fri, 11 Aug 2006 01:32:54 +0000 http://www.minthegap.com/?p=676#comment-454 If history is any teacher, they will soon be selling things that will make it obvious who they serve. If history is any teacher, they will soon be selling things that will make it obvious who they serve.

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